Pope’s comments on Mohammed

I was going to post some of my fave quotes from the past few days’ news articles about the Pope’s lecture at Regensburg, and the ensuing whine from the Muslim world, but decided instead just to summarize:

Nah, instead, here’s the actual quotations. They are just perfect as they are.

Headline from NY Times, Sept. 15, 2006: “Pope Faces Crisis as Muslim Outcry Grows”

a top official in the Islamic-rooted ruling party said that the pope is “going down in history in the same category as leaders such as Hitler and Mussolini.”

“He has a dark mentality that comes from the darkness of the Middle Ages,” the official, Salih Kapusuz, deputy leader of Prime Minister Recep Tayyib Erdogan’s government, was quoted on the state-owned Anatolia news agency. “It looks like an effort to revive the mentality of the Crusades.”

Nice . . . someone with an 8th-century mentality criticizing Benedict XVI for having a 14th-century mentality.

Before you stop reading, here’s probably the best quote, from a CNN article. The Organization of the Islamic Conference released a statement that included this:

“The attribution of the spread of Islam around the world to the shedding of blood and violence, which is ‘incompatible with the nature of God’ is a complete distortion of the facts, which shows deep ignorance of Islam and Islamic history.”

Uh, yeah. Islam has always been a very peaceful religion, just like it is today. And another thing: Ignorance can’t be “deep,” only wide.

From a NY Times editorial:

A doctrinal conservative, his greatest fear appears to be the loss of a uniform Catholic identity, not exactly the best jumping-off point for tolerance or interfaith dialogue.

First, like many of you, I just LOVE speculation on inner states of mind. Second, it’s just too much to believe that this editorialist actually believes in a “uniform Catholic identity.” Just compare any Hispanic Catholic community with any non-Hispanic one, in any US city, to see the differences. To say nothing of the differences between a Los Angeles parish and one in Poland.

From the same editorial:

For many Muslims, holy war — jihad — is a spiritual struggle, and not a call to violence. And they denounce its perversion by extremists, who use jihad to justify murder and terrorism.

Sure it is, and sure they do. It’s also true that the extremist fringe is something like, oh, a billion friggin people strong. Nugatory, really.

And finally a positive note, also from the NY Times:

But the section on Islam made up just three paragraphs of the speech, and he devoted the rest to a long examination of how Western science and philosophy had divorced themselves from faith — leading to the secularization of European society that is at the heart of Benedict’s worries.
[. . .]
Several experts on the Catholic Church and Islam agreed that the speech — in which Benedict made clear he was quoting other sources on Islam — did not appear to be a major statement on, or condemnation of, Islam. The chief concern, they said, was the West’s exclusion of religion from the realm of reason.

The accuracy and lack of hysteria in these paragraphs was awfully refreshing.

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5 Responses to “Pope’s comments on Mohammed”

  1. brad richert Says:

    “It’s also true that the extremist fringe is something like, oh, a billion friggin people strong. Nugatory, really.”

    I can’t tell, is this sarcasm?

  2. Mark Says:

    And my “reading” of the early history of Islam is pretty much in line with Paleologos, except for the editorializing (evil and inhuman).

    I saw the maps. They didn’t get to the Pyrenees by impressing the infidels with their “spiritual struggle.”

  3. Don Says:

    If the religion of Islam is not violent and is tolerant of other religions, then why all the violence and murder in the muslim world on the Pope’s quotes from an emperor of the Byzantine era about Islam…?

    Let call a spade a spade… the leaders of Islam want to see the world as an Islamic State and those that do not believe in their prophet treated as 2nd class citizens and eventually or if not sooner KILLED!

  4. brad richert Says:

    “If the religion of Islam is not violent and is tolerant of other religions, then why all the violence and murder in the muslim world on the Pope’s quotes from an emperor of the Byzantine era about Islam…?

    Let call a spade a spade… the leaders of Islam want to see the world as an Islamic State and those that do not believe in their prophet treated as 2nd class citizens and eventually or if not sooner KILLED! ”

    Why? hmm… because the Western leaders, Christian or otherwise, have been pissing on the East for centuries. Religion is just one of the many blatant excuses that leaders of both sides use to brainwash the masses into doing really stupid things. Every religion, depending on how you read it, can be tolerant or intolerant, peaceful or violent. Because of the sheer number of adherents, both Christianity and Islam are the most guilty of such crimes. In our present day, true Christianity is so whitewashed with Americanism and shallow morality that no one really “stands up” for their beliefs. The Muslims still do, and some do extremely violently.

    Yes, many Islamic leaders would not mind seeing Israel and America wiped out, but why wouldn’t they? I am not excusing their actions, for they are wrong, but lets take out the plank in our own eye…. American Hegemony anyone?

  5. Arnoldcy Says:

    well done, man

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