Christian “harassment” and “hazing” in Georgia

This has got to be one of the most bald-faced instances of anti-Christian activity on the part of a college administration I have ever seen. Savannah State University has expelled a Christian group called “Commissioned II Love” from its campus, for harassment and hazing.

Harassment and hazing are serious charges. Just what did this group do? Apparently “its members shared their faith with other students.” But the hazing part is the best: the group’s leaders washed the feet of new members during a worship service, in imitation of Jesus at the Last Supper.

The university took the position that foot washing was “an activity which endangers or is likely to endanger the physical health of a student, regardless of the student’s willingness to participate in such activity.”

It started in March of last year when a student named Desi Campbell circulated a petition to ban the group. He accused them of “cult-like” actions such as baptisms and foot-washing. Another student, Xavier Coombs, seems to have turned on the group after first joining, and then himself washing the feet of new members. He claims they “called him names” (like, uh, sinner?) and told him he needed to be saved. Sounds to me like they were looking out for his best interests . . .

The group was initially just “suspended” but this was upped to an “expulsion” when some of its members went to Walt Disney World for a weekend concert. The trip was not group-organized, and was not held on the Savannah campus, yet the university cracked down on them for this. At one point prior to this, Randy Gunter, vice president for student affairs, even called the campus police to stop some of them from praying on campus.

Try to find a campus administrator anywhere in the United States who will call the police to shut down people preaching hatred of their own university. They don’t exist. But Christian groups are fair game, at least in Savannah.

If this is not pure madness . . . what am I saying. I read stuff like this every single day. This was just a little more crack-brained than most of it. I am curious if Coombs and Campbell are gay or Muslim or members of some other special interest group the university is anxious to appease.

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86 Responses to “Christian “harassment” and “hazing” in Georgia”

  1. heaintthroughwithmeyet Says:

    Hi,
    we are in the end days and that is all prophesied. Thats why you keep hearing about those things everywhere you turn. We christians get charged with things that is unbelievable. Thats why we have to get ever so close into the bible and into fellowship with one another.

    God Bless You
    Andrea

  2. Curly Says:

    Amen to the Bible and fellowship, but I always doubt talk of the “end times.” It must have seemed like the end times when Rome was sacked in 1527, but it wasn’t. There are many other examples from history infinitely worse than this little university scuffle. We’ll know it when it happens. Until then, keep the faith.

  3. Mark Says:

    Yes, we are perpetually in the end times. I think there is a bit of human nature in that, it is hard to imagine all this madness continuing after we are all long gone…

    But you make a good point here, I think it reveals deeper problems in academia in this country, and also broader societal trends. I was always annoyed by University efforts to crack down on hazing, which were really picking up steam while I was an undergrad. I don’t know. Hazing can be dangerous, sure. But so is driving, walking, doing anything outdoors, etc. Hazing is a tradition (that is worth something in itself, I think) and is (was) part of building a tight community. I wasn’t a greek, but I I’ve always imagined it would’ve been fun. Or maybe I just watched Animal House too many times.

    I don’t know if this example is really Savannah being anti-Christian (I doubt it, for some reason), or if they are just trying to extend their bad anti-hazing policies to all groups, “just to be fair” and keep the usual targets (Greeks) quiet.

    I don’t understand why we have to try to eliminate that which might be offensive, annoying, dangerous or thrilling (heaven forbid) and reduce everything to this flabby unobjectionable vanilla pudding substance that makes kids want to spend more time in front of a computer. Very sad, hopefully just a trend that will go away over time. Maybe before the end of our days? That would be nice.

  4. Curly Says:

    Whether Savannah is being anti-Christian specifically or whether this is just a case of bland one-size-fits-all censorship, I don’t know for sure. But I’d bet it’s an anti-Christian thing.

    I would say that in more cases than not, it’s the university being anti-Christian. Christians, you see, are the great oppressors of history, and are fanatically pro-war and anti-science. Or so the liberal thinking goes. So to make up for it, you have to ban Christianity.

    Is it just me or does this feel like the so-called “Enlightenment” all over again? It didn’t work the first time, brothers, why should it be different now?

  5. xavier coombs Says:

    Hello all!! I am one of the students mentioned in the filings and I wanted to explain that is not a case of Christian Censorship at all! C2l of which I am a former member was beginning to get out of hand and not walking in Love and creating problems for other christian organizations which still operate on savannah State Campus with campus support and backing! I personally saw C2L do things were not of God and the real reason they were expelled was because they didn’t follow the sanctions imposed on them. We are told by God that we must submit to man’s law as well as his law as long as HIS laws are not violated. That didn’t happen concerning C2L. I really believe that you all have the right hearts and minds to support Christ i do I am not gay nor am I am a part of thee muslim faith nor any other special interest group. I am a minister of the gospel of Jesus Christ. I want us to understand that God is wonderful and that his word is true and that he tells us that We perish for lack of knowledge. Please before making unfounded comments and unfounded declarations please know the entire truth. I love you all and pray that Christ’s love shine upon you and that God’s favor falls upon all that you touch.

  6. Brother Phil Says:

    This is why they got banned make no mistake about it….

    http://www.dontgogreek.com
    http://www.gailgray.com
    http://www.divinetruthishere.com
    http://www.exministires.com
    http://www.exbglounion.bravehost.com/
    http://www.fish4masons.org/home.html
    http://www.ephesians5-11.org

    TO GOD BE THE GLORY

  7. xavier coombs Says:

    no they did not gey banned because of beliefs that greekdom is wrong it is not more powerfulthan God! greekdom dont have that much power! But they were banned because they were hurting people. and broke rules of not having contact with myself or Desi L. Campbell. They called and harrassed my parents thye emailed through their friends Min. campbell after being forbade. Also that trip that they took to Florida broke the rules of the suspension! Even now they are told to not wear paraphenelia and all but larinda wears it on campus blatant disrespect and disobedience. these are the factors to being expelled. We can be super spiritual and try to say that they were expelled becasue of certain spiritual reasons but there are other ministries on the campus even now. We must submit to Godly authority and wordly authority. We must allow God to deal with leaders who are out of place if they are not rebel against them.

  8. xavier coombs Says:

    Brother Phil, Pastor phil I respect your office really I do. but you are being fooled! i understand and respect your beliefs that greekdom is wrong. And i know that the members of C2L are nice, good people. But you have not seen the side of them that has hurt and divided the campus of SSU. those who support them now form campus are those who were not either directly hurt, were no there during the whole episode, or those who are part of the ministry. i mean they can appear very holy and loving and most are but the leadership is where the prayer of deliverance needs to be applied. you can not preach order but then operate in disorder. Ask God to take the scales off your eyes and see that a whole campus and even those in high school can not be lying and misjudging.

  9. Curly Says:

    Okay, Brother Phil and Xavier, I’m going to have to ask you to start making sense if you want to keep posting comments. BP, nobody’s going to click on 7 links just to figure out what you mean. And the 2:42 p.m. comment by Xavier is particularly unintelligible. Commas and periods are free, my friend! Use them!

    Anyway, XC, it seems ludicrous that a university could regulate what its students do on their own time, and in a different state.

  10. Xavier Coombs Says:

    I am sorry Curly. I never should have responded anyway! God knows the truth and no matter how much i try to tell what really happened i have to stoop to a level that GOD does not want me on anyway. I thank you for trying to defend the faith as we all should. and please before we make hasty judgements in the future lets know all the facts cause everything is not as it seems. because we on that campus everyday and we see what goes on and what really happened and so does GOD. so in the end he will be magnified and the truth will come out. and those who are wrong will be punished and dealt with by God. I love you all and be blessed.

  11. Curly Says:

    Amen, Xavier . . . you probably also should have settled your differences with your Christian brethren personally, rather than bringing Caesar into the picture, but I don’t know anything about the case firsthand. On the surface, though, the whole thing seems rather outrageous and you don’t come off well in the court papers. Best wishes to all friends of truth.

  12. Brother Phil Says:

    I not only was an employee of Savannah State University. I am currently the Youth Minister at College Park Baptist Church on the corner of the SSU campus. And as far as Commissioned 2 love goes , I know then personally. If you go to their website You will see me in the men’s section and the Biblical Perspective of Greekdom section.
    Mr Coombs you are welcome to visit the church on wed or sunday and talk with me. I met Minister Desi Campbell who happens to be a proud member of Phi Beta Sigma at our Truth Behind Hip Hop culture Conference.
    These young people are on fire for the Lord Jesus Christ. If anybody would like to test their spirits . C2L has church ievery sunday at 7 pm . Check the website for details. In the end of all of this the truth will Stand and the world will see who is who.

    My only question? is why did you guys go to the police and pull the school administration into a situation between believers.

  13. Brother Phil Says:

    Desi L. Campbell
    Fall 2006/Sons of Fire and Brim Stone/The Conductor/Phi Beta Sigma Fraternity Inc
    http://www.collegiateministry.net

    Xavier Coombs what is your opinion about fratenities/sororities in the church?
    I believe that it is a conflict of interest ….

  14. Minister Fred Hatchett Says:

    Desi Campbell called me one day telling me that he was going to shut C2L down. What was the reason? The Biblical Perspectives of Greekdom (BPOG) was the ONLY issue of discussion. Well, there will be another BPOG on April 20, 2007 and C2L is still up and running. He even claimed to have an attorney present during that phone call. I said, “ye right”. Where is he now? A smart attorney would not allow such recklessness. So Desi either lied, or has a foolish lawyer. I believe the former is true, so Desi; REPENT. I have seen no attorney speak on his behalf up to now.

    Xavier- If you had settled your differences biblically, none of this would be going on right now. You brought the Savannah State University into this and they bought into this whole mess. Win or lose, C2L has moved on, the BPOG is still happening, they are expanding to other campuses, and their influence is still present on campus.

    You two guys, along with the carelessness of University officials have put C2L on the map, and made this whole Greek Issue receive National attention.

    919/278-88911
    Praise the Lord!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  15. Minister Fred Hatchett Says:

    One other fact that needs to be noted. Why did Desi and Xavier ignore all other greeks engaging in hazing practices? Two pledges from Omega Psi Phi Fraternity during consecutive semesters between 2005-2006 donned crutches. NO INVESTIGATIONS ENSUED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    It would be safe to assume that Desi Campbell is a “PAPER” member of Phi Beta Sigma. A “paper” member is one who does not go through a pledge process, but simply learns history, pays an initiaion fee, and is initiated into the organization with no physical contact except to be lead around by the hand.

  16. Marvin Says:

    I am not sure if you people understand the seriousness of this situation has gone way out of porportion and all the things that you guys are saying about each other is out landish. All fraternities and sorroities are now considered paper. there is an initiation process of learning the info, paying your money and crossing over. You should be worried about what what god is doing in your life and leaving people who don’t care about this type of foolishness. Enough is enough! I think most of you are mad cause you people are upset with yourself and taking it out on others. Search yourself and if you believe that being greek is not good for you then so be it. But leave people alone that are greek, thinking about being greek or whatever. Being Greek is not going to stop anybody in getting into heaven. Leave people alone and move on with your life. Read the bible through and through and you wont have to worry about whether oor not somebody is greek or not. Get Saved!

  17. Minister Fred Hatchett Says:

    I respond with Colossians 2:8/II Corinthians 10:3-6/Ephesians 5:11/ I Peter 5:8, etc. Now if writers of the Bible saw fit to expose evil and warn us of on coming danger, shouldn’t we? Why did Paul waste his time writing Acts 16&17. It’s not necessarily people that’s the problem. It’s the organizations teachings and rituals.

    Now Marvin, if you really want ot see what is going on with Greek Organizations, please come to College Park Baptist Church, April 20, 2007 @ 7:00 p.m.

    “All fraternities and soroities are now considered paper. there is an initiation process of learning the info, paying your money and crossing over.”

    These statments existed in Greek orgs. way before 1990, but were PUBLICLY engaging in pledging activities, so this statement may be National in scope, but individual chapters are doing as they please. There is brazen support, and even confessions to hazing and being hazed all over the internet. Chapter websites are still labeled, “BLOODY”, “No Skaters”= “We Haze”.

    “Being Greek is not going to stop anybody in getting into heaven.”

    Being Greek may be the final straw to one’s deception. How do you know whether or not this is so? Why do the fraternity and sorority rituals say different about being greek and going to heaven? They calim that heaven is guaranteed WITHOUT BEING SAVED!

    919/278-8911 after 7:00 p.m.

  18. Minister Fred Hatchett Says:

    http://scripturetext.com/ephesians/5-11.htm
    http://scripturetext.com/colossians/2-8.htm
    http://scripturetext.com/2_corinthians/10-5.htm

    These are reference information for the scriptures used. Even though they are very very clear, this will really help drive the point home of how dangerous these organizations are on the outside and inside (to those who KNOW about the inside) because members are not saying anything.

    And what would anyone expect from an organization that binds sinners with oaths; to really obey them? Having sinners swearing an oath to God is oxymoronic. Then they are driven to further in to the world of sin CONDONED by these organizations. As an X-Zeta of nine years, holding regional leadership positions said, “Greek Organizations are a CESSPOOL of sin.”

  19. Miss Jones Says:

    So is this what the world has come to? Fussing over greeks and organizations? What about why we have more African American males in jail , or why single-mother teen pregnancies is at a peek in 2007? After reading everyone’s comment, it just seems to be MORE important things to fight for like our voting rights which are slowly being taken away from us (African Americans) (a little bit of Constitutional Law…read up on it). I can understand wanting to “help” others but the fact is you need to make sure you are right with GOD, I’m sure He is not going to ask you to pick a friend to bring into the gates with you; all of this bashing is truely uncalled for. Sometimes you have to just move on with your life and grow up! Heir-say should have stopped a long time ago, if it is not coming from the source, most likely…it’s not 100% the truth. This whole thing is crazy.

    As a student off SSU, I think the biggest problem that students had (note: I did say HAD) with C2L is that they felt that the religion was being forced on them (being harassed). Who wants to be pressured? Not me! I know some of the members of C2L (who are nice, sweet, and loving), and although I may not agree with them completely, that doesn’t mean that we cannot be adults, sit in the same class, and learn.

    Now as a Proud scholar of Savannah State University, all this disrespect of my school, my administration, and my classmates…NEEDS TO END, RGHT NOW! It’s immature…I assume you all are “adult”…the time has come for you to stop PLAYING adult and actually become one.

    ~Miss Jones~

  20. Minister Fred Hatchett Says:

    I suggest you send that warning to your school. By the way, the things you addressed in the first part of your letter do get dealt with by me and others. I write for a school newspaper. It’s not a matter of it being addressed, but the black community listening.

    About the voting rights issue, why don’t you see how many blacks voted in the past two elections? Then ask the question, do blacks deserve the right? The same would go for whites, but since you want to be prejudiced, LOL!

  21. Curly Says:

    Brother Phil wrote on March 27:

    Xavier Coombs what is your opinion about fratenities/sororities in the church?
    I believe that it is a conflict of interest ….

    Phil, do you mean that one can’t pledge special loyalty to a group of human beings at the same time as pledging loyalty to Christ? If so, stop and think how silly that is. What about monastic orders (Franciscans, Jesuits, etc.), to say nothing of the thousands of Christian “fraternities” (Baptists, Lutherans, etc.)?

    Regarding Fred Hatchett’s comment about Greek organizations being cesspools of sin: they are what their members make them. It seems beyond difficult to believe that any fraternal/sororal grouping would be capable only of bringing the group down, rather than building it up.

    Miss Jones: thank you for your comment, but the post is not about race nor about voting rights. It’s about anti-Christian prejudice on campus.

  22. Brother Phil Says:

    “Phil, do you mean that one can’t pledge special loyalty to a group of human beings at the same time as pledging loyalty to Christ? ”

    it depends on the group.

    Christians who happen to be Marines ( cool)

    so-called Christians who happen to be witches (not cool)

    The Exodus

    10:3 And Moses and Aaron went in unto Pharaoh, and said unto him, Thus saith YAHUVEH, the YAHUVEH of the Hebrews, How long wilt thou refuse to humble thyself before me? let my people go, that they may serve me.

    In 1906 seven men would form an organization at Cornell University called Alpha Phi Alpha. Many great black men have joined this organization over the past 100 years. Eight other fraternities and sororities would come into existence and form the Pan Hellenic Council. Because of the secretive nature of the rituals and symbols many men and women have joined these organizations without really digging into the meaning of the symbols and the rituals.
    In 1992 I was initiated into Omega Psi Phi Fraternity . Because of my lack of Faith in any particular religion the process that I went through did not cause me to question the meaning of the poems, rituals and traditions. All that would change nine years later after becoming a born again believer in Yahshua Ha Masheac(Jesus Christ). At 35 years of age my life began to change . Everything I had been doing for the past 16 years started dropping off. And I was cool with it. I had finally became a clean Christian Omega man……Then out of no where a preacher who was an ex-mason came to my church and told me that being in a secret society was diametrically opposed to serving The One True and Living God. For two weeks I prayed , researched , and thought about the black greek lettered members who had denounced after accepting Yahshua as their personal Savior and came to the same conclusion. In the Omega phi phi Fraternities Ritual there is a concept that we are bound to called the Universal brotherhood of Man and the Fatherhood of God. pg 23 …Omega Psi Phi Ritual 2nd Printing 1976.

    Masonry teaches that there is one God and men of all religions worship that one God using a variety of different names. The Masonic belief in monotheism is explained in the 1993 Edition of the Indiana Monitor and Freemason’s Guide:
    Monotheism is the sole dogma of Freemasonry. Belief in one God is required of every initiate, but his conception of the Supreme Being is left to his own interpretation. Freemasonry is not concerned with theological distinctions. This is the basis of our universality.
    (p. 41)
    That was enough for me to denounce my membership in Omega Psi Phi.

    http://www.geocities.com/glos_havebeenexposed/watsonreport.pdf

  23. Marvin Says:

    This is foolishness and you all are concerned about greek life when we need to focus on helping others. I have never seen such a strong display of ignorance in my life.

    Focus on Romans 10:9 and pray the prayer of salvation. I agree with Miss Jones, we are focusing on the wrong things as christians. Some of you need to get a life, a job and some stability in your life and maybe the world would be better off!

    I promise you were have our focus on the wrong thins, lets get it together “SAINTS”.

  24. Brother Phil Says:

    Hazing is foolishness
    sex outside of marriage is foolishness
    abortion is foolishness
    homosexuality is foolishness
    idolatry is foolishness

    God has raised up a righteous standard in Savannah Ga. and aint nobody mad but the devil and his servants.

  25. Marvin Says:

    and BPOG is foolishess!

  26. Brother Phil Says:

    For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God. For it is written:
    “I will destroy the wisdom of the wise;
    the intelligence of the intelligent I will frustrate.”1 Cor. 1

  27. Brother Phil Says:

    On or about April 6, 2006, Mr. Campbell filed a complaint with the SSU Police Department alleging that C2L members engaged in “practices that are not unlike [that] of a cult” such as “bapti[sms]” and “foot washing.”

    wow a year ago today….

    On or about April 20, 2006, approximately fifteen C2L members, including Plaintiff Kinsey-Hicks, gathered to walk and pray together on campus. Defendant Gunterinstructed the SSU Police to stop C2L from assembling and praying together. SSU Police Officers Lucious Simmons and Ebony Glover confronted the group and ordered them to stop praying and assembling because of their affiliation with C2L

    BPOG 2007 April 20 2007 on the corner of the SSU campus God is Good

  28. Minister Fred Hatchett Says:

    “Regarding Fred Hatchett’s comment about Greek organizations being cesspools of sin: they are what their members make them. It seems beyond difficult to believe that any fraternal/sororal grouping would be capable only of bringing the group down, rather than building it up.”

    They are what they are at the root. It is the ungodly roots from which they stem. The members just make it worse. The roots must be exposed, so that people can see them for what they truly were, and then they can understand them for what they truly are and why.
    919/278-8911

  29. james Says:

    This is redicoulous. We shoudl be trying to draw people to christ not push them away. i am on campus everyday and this group did more to stop the spread of Christ on campus. They didn’t love the hell out of peole but belittled and exasperated the hell out of people.

  30. Brother Phil Says:

    Sinners dont like for the lifestyle of Sin to be challenged or interupted. Saints all over the world continue to spread the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Ninveh repented and was spared.

  31. James Says:

    Man when you present the word of GOD it cuts and heals and bring people to Christ! I mean it is more dangerous things we as saints need to be rallying around and fighting. I mean you all use scriptures so arbitrarily out of the context they were written. I wonder if you all really understand the word of God. Again we need to draw people to Christ and not push them. The word of God should do the cutting not us. We should allow the the spirit of GOD to do its perfect work. This mess has really torn the campus up and aint nobody but recycled saints still coming from the campus to C2L. They are not helping. I Mean LARINDA is lying and you all who support her only see one side of her and she is manipulative. YOU all need to ask that the scaled be taken off your eyes and that you all see her for what she is. This whole laesuit she brought is because her pride has been hurt and she is angry because hte truth is not in that filing or in any of the stories she is telling I cant wait til the truth comes out and exposed just as you all wanna to do to others. She has the nation trashing our UNIVERSITY because of her lies. ANd those poor babies who are apart of C2L who can not see the manipulation because they want GOD so bad and to serve and she played on those desires and now they are stuck in something soooooo cultish. I pray that they all get delivered before she has them drinking Cyanide Kool-AId. ANd now she is ordained and pastoring what a slap in the face to all ministries/ministers around the world. Ministries/ministers that are truly serving Christ and preaching the Word. I am sorry I had to vent because this horrible how she is misrepresenting Christ and how so many people have been hurt and the body divided because of the message she taught and the way she showed Christ. It is some people whom the Gosple will never get o now because of her foolishness. Jezebel is a trip that spirit and the spirit of Python is messy as hell and will destroy in mins what it took years to build up.

  32. James Says:

    My heart goes out to all those Duped by the Pastor of C2L. That is a warlock spirit if I ever seen it. In stead of beating up greeks REVs PHIL and Hatchett why dont you pray deliverance for your sister (how can two walk together unless they agree). She needs it, every church she went to here in Savannah the leadership was jealous of her gifts and couldnt support her anointing. WOW that is some mess!! I know her personally that is always the exscuse when she leaves somewhere. Why is she that bad or is that az spirit of witchcraft, python rebellion and pride. I dare submit to you; HELL YES! But she is a prophet and pastor. I aint knocking but those spirits have got to be dealt with and confronted and you supposed men of GOD who are so discerning and powerful dont seeit? where is the power you have when you beat down Greeks and expose themm, GLO’s Exposed, Expose those spirits check with her pastors here in SAvannah and see how she left them and then you will see her character. call Diane and Pastor Ricky termple and talk to them. Call Pastor and Mrs Roberson and talk to them! Now I understand we all fall short but dont try to get the speck out of everyone’s eye and you got multiple beams in yours. that is the word. We playing patty cake over being on campus if your ministry is really God ordained do it where ever calls has made space for you. The bible says if they dont accept shake the dust off your feet and keep going not sdue to get back in the place they put you out off. I am just tired of this tom-foolery. We need to tell the truth LARINDA (Lady Living Stone) you are lying and fooling people. It is time you be confronted I am praying that you are and that GOD raises the right person to do it. But TALIAFERRO AND HATCHETT raise up and be who you say you are use that spiritual authority you say you have and cast ou them demons.

  33. Curly Says:

    James: you are making no sense. I can hardly understand your writing.

    Larinda: be glad you’re being attacked by the likes of James, rather than by someone who makes sense.

  34. James Says:

    Curly you are an idiot you just stir the pot. Secondly, Larinda can read what i wrote and so can those who involved in the case and situation. Curly stop trying to be so sarcastic and actually take the time to read. and you will see what is said. this is not class or an essay so there will be some grammatical errors as people are in hurries. This whole website is full of crap but entertaining yet sickening (C2L mess) is why I come to it. ANd I am not attacking LArinda I am telling the truth of what is what. I hope this clear enough for you and makes enough sense thanks. Now if you dont understand the spiritual thing i was talking about why ae you running a christian website that supposedly defends the word.

  35. Brother Phil Says:

    I am a youth pastor at College Park Baptist Church and all are welcome to come and talk to me about what is going on. The Biblical Perspective of Greekdom will be Held at my church, COLLEGE PARK BAPTIST CHURCH on this Friday. All are welcome . 5 denounced members of Black Greek Lettered Organizations will share their testimonies. My Pastor and I love C2l . Curly come to Savannah yourself and meet us. Something is happenning in Savannah Ga and it is bigger than SSU.

  36. James Says:

    Brother Phil I can find 5 people to support me that I am not fat dont mean I aint fat. What I am saying we can always find people to support whatever we believe it dont make it true or untrue but let GOD deal with you. This is all Mess period point blank. I wonder why you all love C2L. Please pray about it for real cause you will see that the Leadership is not it says SHE is.

  37. James Says:

    And curly back to an earlier comment a University has the right when you enroll to monitor your actions. If you caught stealing and go to jail off campus they have the prerogative to throw you out of school and you could have been on your own time and in another state/city. but when you enroll you not represent that institution as long you are a student so the University was within legal reason to expell them for going off campus and wearing the paraphenelia and coming together as an organization. They signed the dotted line to be students here so submit to the rules. I just wish they would go to their little house (discipleship center) and have worship (whatever GOD) and leave the school alone.

  38. Minister Fred Hatchett Says:

    James, if that is your real name, you claim out of context, but you like many never present any hermenuetical, historical, exegetical, etc. explanations yourself, let alone the scriptures you claim we take out of context.

    Now I am asking you to please come to the BPOG, identify yourself, so that afterward we can debate, discuss, etc. about this subject. If you want to have a civil conversation prior to 919/278-8911

  39. James Jackson III Says:

    hahahahahahahaha you think i am going to step foot in that foolishness. No thanks my desire is not to argue but to simply say that we all have differnt opinions understandings and interpretations of the word. And in that dont lie and say that because of of your “revelation” you are being persecuted. when C2L, not all but certain ones, caused the organization to be put off campus as a whole because they were disobedient and rebellious. Also because of the things that they did to people that is not allowed on campus period. Stop trying to hide behind the word and your “revelation” and stand up and say i was wrong if i had of been obedient i would be back on campus now, with some restrictions and monitoring but still ministering. It has nothing to do with being a follower of Christ or the message C2L is preaching or has preached but everything to do with your reaction and interaction with the campus and those who are in charge of the campus. Who because you chose to come here and sign the paper work and agreed to the rules are supposed to be submitted to. that mr. hatchett is my purpose I attend STate and again saw first hand and just want the truth to be told by all. Also I have identified myself my name is what it is. I dont have time to get into hermeneutical and exetical/isogetical arguments and justifications with anyone but i want us as we quote and represent scripture in context to what we speak, understand that although we have somewhat of a license to exegete and isogete the scipture text it must fall in line with the subsequent scriptures as well preceeding scriptures throughout the BIBLE. Revelation must not conflict with the rest of the word. all revelation must line up with every word of the bible or we do 1 of 2 things, make the word a lie in one part which makesia a complete lie, or slip down the slope of making ourselves liars and showing that it was not DIVINE Revelation or inspiration that showed the revelation in the first place. it is time for the body of Christ to stop accepting charismatic people who can operate in gifts of God (satan can as well as a point and throught out the bible we satanic uses of Spiritual giftings) but are not submitted to anyone come in and become leaders because they say or do something that makes us run shout or even just agree or affirm us. because as ling as we just go by that feeling and accept folk and play to their manipulations then we will always have this C2L type drama in many places. As long as we dont study and combine true study with the spirit we have jack leg/ malpracticing ministers who are accepted because they are creative, can sing, dance, administer, organize, whoop (close in a sing song manner a sermon a historically black and charismatic tradition0, but dont have the spirit of God who lead people astray. Too many times we accept people for face value without seeing the spirit (true spirit) not the spirit they so us to manipulate us but truly get to a plae of discerning who they are. I hope I have sufficiently answered your questions. my goal is not to bash but just confront a littl of the insanity being done in the name of Christ and say enough is enough of beating the hell out of people and lying bout our motives but as lets be like th word and say by love and kindness have I drawn thee. True love knows when to be tender and when to be tough tru love has wisdom all in it.

  40. James Jackson III Says:

    And to Curly I know I mispelled some words and jumbled some up but i am in a hurry and working on 4 hours of sleep. So please cahrge it to that and not my intelligence. But i do believe that the message is yet still clear.

  41. Brother Phil Says:

    Suddenly in Savannah: A Revival Fault Line

    By Chad Taylor

    I will come to My temple like an Eagle. I will visit My people like a flood. I will break the ancient banks of tradition to flood the land with My power and presence. I will break down the ancient gates of poverty that have ruled the land and will establish My statutes. I will raise up the destitute, the prostitute, and the youth. They will sit at My right hand in Heavenly places and possess the land. I will uproot and tear down the walls that divide between black and white, day and night. I will defy the paradigm of prejudice and establish My law in their heart. The law of love and grace.

    The spiritual plates that have positioned My people in the wilderness of religion are shifting. A fault of line of revival will be felt from Savannah to Raleigh, from Raleigh to Atlanta. From Atlanta to Norfolk, from Norfolk to Ahoskie. From Ahoskie to Newbern, from Newbern to Whittaker, from Whittaker to the uttermost parts of the earth. I am shifting the spiritual plates and causing the Spirit of revival and awakening to fall upon these Southern States. The paradigm of prejudice will give way to the heart of reconciliation and reformation. The tide of hatred and pride will turn into the shores of My grace and forgiveness.

    Suddenly in Savannah will I appear. In the Spirit of Reformation and revival I will come in. On a donkey that no man has sat will I come. I will come in ways that man can predict or project. I will break the mind-sets that set boundaries and expectations, I will do exceedingly and abundantly more than you can think or ask. In your streets and marketplaces I will cast down imagination and thoughts that exalt themselves above the knowledge of Christ. I will confront the icon of witchcraft in your cities with a power that will eclipse their spells and incantations. They will see and hear the miracles that you do and believe in Me.

    In the small and overlooked places I will now visit. They will be a Bethlehem, a place of new birth and revival. They will be like the mid-wives in Moses day that bring forth deliverance and salvation. This is the acceptable time, the days of salvation says the Lord. These are the days that you will pass through a passage of history. Uncapping the wells of previous revivals and reformation. All of these tributaries will flow into one great river of reformation. I will change the statistics that hang over your children’s head, I will create in your day a phenomena and paradigm shift.

    Chad Taylor

  42. Brother Phil Says:

    I was a nasty q – dog omega man let me give a real testimony out of love for all of GOD’S CHILDREN IN AND OUT OF SECRET SOCIETIES

    after 6 years of failed attempts to cross the burning sands into omega land i crossed spr 92

    my pre pledge processes in 86, 87 ,88,89,90,& 91 contained more hazing than intakes these days.
    broken teeth broken arms and near death exp’s, are part of my being a q .. the era i lived in was the time that the young man from norfolk state dropped line and sued the frat

    back then to me he was wrong but this young man ,who was a gospel singer, jaw was broken by one of his big brothers

    i was beat down and did plenty of beating i was a adp and a dp i ve been in gangbangs sexual and fraternal and have witness women beind sexually abused .the attitude of a nasty dog “they wanted it” i am referring to myself and all like me back then

    i carry scars , a broken wisdom tooth ,and brands on my chest ,arms, and legs
    i gave up blood,sweat, and tears for omega

    i remember before i crossed 2 brothers had quit the frat because of religous convictions but the brothers kept in on the down low and they never really came back to witness to us,,, we just put it out of our minds …

    then my best friend who was an alpha man was getting married and his wife who still is a delta had a line sister in the wedding who witnessed to me but back then i was fresh off the sands and could not hear her but it always stayed in the back of my mind

    why would she quit delta in fact the preacher was an omega man forget that she tripping….

    my friend was so mad at me because he caught me and some of the other brothers who were all greek drinking brews in the basement of the church i was very disrespectful to any organized religion.

    years later after studying all types of religions while pursuing my music career all over the USA my lifestyle began to catch up with me i had acute bronchitis and the trips to the clinic for urinary tract infections were killing my immune system… i was dying.

    ONE DAY IN MY APT after coming from the club i prayed i cant even remeber what i said but FOR SOME REASON I WOKE UP WITH THE THOUGHT TO FAST OFF OF MEAT FOR THIRTY DAYS ..I obeyed ,what did i have to lose 15 DAYS IN TO THIS FAST I STOP USING DRUGS , stop going to STRIP CLUBS ,AND PROSTITUTES SOON FELL OFF . BLAMING IT ALL ON MATURITY I WENT HOME FOR NEW YEARS EVE AND I WAS HEADED FOR A PARTY BUT INSTEAD ENDED UP IN CHURCH AND THE MESSAGE WAS CLEAR. HE PREACHED ABOUT FAMILY AND I DID NOT HAVE NO WIFE OR KIDS I was ’35’
    THINGS BEGIN TO TAKE OFF I WAS CASt IN A GOSPEL PLAY WITH JENNIFER HOLIDAY , CHARLIE WILSON, ONE OF THE TEMPTATIONS AND PHILLIP MICHAEL THOMAS . IT FELT REAL GOOD THEN I DECIDED TO DO A GOSPEL CD TO BALANCE ALL OF MY HARCORE MUSIC NEXT THING I ENDED UP IN ATLANTA AT BISHOP EDDIE LONGS CHURCH

    i did not have a bible and had not read it for 15 years since i was a boy. but i had a testimony and i was telling everybody how free i was .

    well in the parking lot i heard a minister, Pastor Terrell Murphy http://www.newbirthcharlotte.org/pastor.html He was talking about doing something foolish while he was in college I was like “What is he talking about? He said that he was
    BRANDED while in college.i went in after the sermon i walked up to him and this preacher was a former q i could see his brand through his shirt.

    i still wasnt ready to give up omega so i just gave him my cd and bounced . a church from new york met me and told me to come to new york i was like whatever they put me up fed me and gave me my first bible

    i would read a little at first but day after day i grew stronger in the Word.Then one day after th e Sept 11 bommbing while sleeping on the couch i woke up speaking in tongues. OH BOY A couple weeks later i ended up at a Revival where hands were laid on me ………When i got up off the Floor I knew to go back to my Bible and findd out who this Jesus was.

    Little did I know that this would be the end of my hip hop culture days. After the revival i stayed at the Hatian church I knew God was up to something and i was not going to leave New york without something …..One day while sitting and watching a Pastor do a video show
    i noticed a man doing sign language he was a former
    freemason and after his show he spoke to me outside and told me what our frats were founded upon. and it was not JESUS fish4masons.org
    i researched prayed and two weeks later i was taking the licence plates off my truck…. THIS PART YOU MIGHT NOT BELIEVE BUT IT IS TRUE AFTER PRAYING AND READING THE BIBLE WITH NO TV FOR SEVERAL WEEKS ONE MOURNIN I WOKE UP TO GET READY FOR SUNDAY SCHOOL AND A VOICE CAME OUT OF NO WHERE AND TOLD ME TO MARRY THis LADY WHO IS NOW MY WIFE I DID NOT NO HER BUT I OBEYED AND 3 YEARS LATER WE ARE HAPPILY MARRIED WITH TWO KIDS .. ONE DAY I WOULD LIKE TWO INTRODUCE YOU GUYS TO MY FRATENITY/SORORITY “MY FAMILY”

    I USE TO SING A SONG IIIIII KNOW I VE BEEN CHANGED OMEGA PSI pHI DONE SIHN MY NAME

    I WAS Q PSI PHI TILL THE DAY I DIE

    WELL MY BROTHERS AND SISTER I DIED AND WAS BORN A NEW IT HAPPENED TO ME AND IT CAN HAPPEN TOU YOU.

    NOW I SING THE SAME SONG THE ONLY DIFERENCE I SING IT HOW IT WAS ORIGINALLY WRITTEN

    IIIII KNOW IVE BEEN CHANGE THE ANGEL IN HEAVEN DONE SIGned MY NAME.

    IN THE NAME OF JESUS I PRAY THIS TESTIMONY TOUCHES THE HEART OF SOMEONE WHo IS LOST I DO THIS NOT BECAUSE I AM MAD I DO THIS BECAUSE GOD PICKED ME UP TURNED ME AROuND AND PLACE MY FEET On SOLID GROUND

    TO THE CHILDREN OF THE MOST HIGH REMEMBER EVEN WHEN YOUR FATHER BEATS YOU HE STILL LOVES YOU .
    ps
    i was knocked off my high horse on my way to damascus

  43. James JacksonIII Says:

    I really enjoyed the testimony!!

  44. Brother Phil Says:

    exbglounion@yahoo.com

    God is Good… And I am very thankful for his Amazing Grace

  45. Minister Fred Hatchett Says:

    James,

    There would have been no arguing or debating. You would have sat and listened like normal people do. Then afterward, we could have a civil conversation.

    Now James, I do not know if you are greek or an interest, but if you are either, I sure don’t see you mentioning the organization by name.

  46. Curly Says:

    Minister Fred,

    I was wondering how your BPOG session went last Friday.

  47. James JacksonIII Says:

    Hatchett you just want folk to take what you say and not retort! I am not a member of a greek letter organization. Also you have a blessed day and time because I have said my piece on this site about C2L. ANd this whole mess they call lawsuit and BPOG. I am just trying to get the masses to understand that all the time things are not as they appear. I have been in BPOG before and there are some good ponts but then there are some points taken completely out of Context. I just pray that you all be blessed and that one day you can see for your self Hatchett that everything that agrees with you and your message aint holy cause i can agree in action deed, and language and not be of you. This is exampled in the bible by the Disciple Judas walked with christ , ministered with him, ate with him but hen in the end was not like him at all.

  48. Minister Fred Hatchett Says:

    The BPOG went great. I will break down how we exposed the whole secret society thing.

    I never said C2L was perfect, and you may have your chance in court to testify, but according to the law of the land, Savannah State is innocent until proven guilty. I love the retort JJ, but when it comes to Greeks, they offer NO EVIDENCE. This makes it all too easy. There is alot behind the scenes that you do not know either. Things that I personally were involved in, and things I read from individuals involved in this mess.

    The whole Greeklife stronghold and the people controlled byt it in Savannah is being exposed more and more for their biased, elitist bigotry. But people are deciding not to pledge, even though they are still having probates. People who come to the seminars that already know how to soul win are becoming more knowledgable on GLO’s. They are learning about the dirty, secret underhandedness of these organizations. They are learning that persecution for Jesus’ sake MEANS to be sanctioned for foot washing, while other GLO’s have members at probate shows on crutches. Pledging goes on under the many school’s Administration who turn a blind eye to assault (HAZING). So do not even try to discuss retort with me. Where have you been when the hazing has been going on, or are you going to be one of the hear no, see no, so you don’t have to Report no evil? LOL!!!!!

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  50. James JacksonIII Says:

    Well i know personally and have read things written by those involved and even spent countless hours with some of those involved Min. Hatchett so yea i do what is going on behind the scenes even bettter than you do but. Like i said i just pray that you all see the truth. and C2l was not expelled for washing feet they were put on a semster suspension and 2year probation because of that as hazing and harassment of students. they were expelled because they were told not to do certain things like wear the paraphenelia with C2L on it, not to gather as an organization (b4 it became a church) in the name of C2L, and definitely not do these things while on campus. Which they broke all those rules. did you read the summons, and the case file from the adjudication process from SSU. I think you shoul read that which Larinda has a copy of those things. b4 you jump on her bandwagon and then look at the letters sent out after they were caught gathering in Florida with the C2L ACCOUNTABILITY t-shirts on. Also while in florida they went to colleges there and established chapters which was also exposed while suspended. So yea they were reallyy being persecuted for Christ sake-Hell NO. They were expelled for disobedience.

  51. James JacksonIII Says:

    I am just so sick of C2L bashing the campus but still trying to be students here if this is so God forsaken and horrible pack up and leave. what does the bible say about the message not being received, Mat 10:14 And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet.

    Mar 6:11 And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear you, when ye depart thence, shake off the dust under your feet for a testimony against them. Verily I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for Sodom and Gomorrha in the day of judgment, than for that city.

    Luk 9:5 And whosoever will not receive you, when ye go out of that city, shake off the very dust from your feet for a testimony against them.

    If your message is real and we aint receiving the word do like the Bible and get away and then GOD will deal us or raise up someone who can reach this campus.

  52. Brother Phil Says:

    Fellowship was awesome at the BPOG April 20 and the fellowship sunday night was terrific. C2L is on FIRE. Thank You Jesus for the confirmation. Get covered by the Blood of Yahshua .

  53. Minister Fred Hatchett Says:

    James,

    I thought you were done. I read the summons and those are the very reasons why SSU is being sued.

  54. Minister Fred Hatchett Says:

    People are listening James. You may not be, but you’re not the center of my universe either. My world does not revolve around you. Oh Ye, Watch your mouth!!!!!!!! you “almost ” used profanity.

  55. James JacksonIII Says:

    hahahahaha yea i did I “forgive you” as the wonderfully anointed Jamaal bryant would say. And to Taliaferro I am covered by the blood. You all are soooooooooooo funny. When you are presented the word you get angry and accusatory and defensive. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA well I am glad I know the truth even if you all dont wont to accept that C2l was and is wrong as hell. I hope that one day we can all talk face to face on neutral ground and discuss but until i bid you all ADIEU. MAY THE BLESSINGS AND PEACE OF GOD OVERTAKE YOU AND BRING TO PASS EVERY DESTINY GOD HAS FOR YOU.

  56. Minister Fred Hatchett Says:

    DESTINY- He has done it concerning the exposure of GLO’s and is continuing to do so.

    I thought the scriptures were awesome. I always do!!!

    Jamal Bryant- LOL!
    Kappa Alpha Psi-LOL!
    Those shirts were most foolish.

    You want to talk on neutral ground? Why? Let’s see what the courts decide.

  57. Minister Fred Hatchett Says:

    Curly,

    The Program was broken into 5 parts and was related to a tree system.

    Part 1- The Seeds
    Babylonian, Egyptian, and Greek Mysteries, and Western African Rites of Passage.

    Part 2- The Roots
    Freemasonry’s Connection to Greek Organizations

    Part 3- The Trunk
    Secret Societies

    Part 4- The Branches
    Worship, Rituals, Praise, etc.

    Part 5- The Fruits
    Witchcraft, Idolatry, Fornication, Adultery, Deception, Corruption, Drunkeness, Homosexuality, etc. ALL the sins in Galatians 19-21, and I mean ALL of them.

  58. Brother Phil Says:

    Foul Mouth christians thats what is hot in the streets.

    NOT

    Oh the Blood of Yahshua

  59. Brother Phil Says:

    DEMONS always create a very anomalous condition in human beings.

    MARK 16:17-18 NKJ
    17 “And these signs will follow those who believe: In My name they will cast out demons; they will speak with new tongues;
    18 “they will take up serpents; and if they drink anything deadly, it will by no means hurt them; they will lay hands on the sick, and they will recover.”

    THANK YOU YAHSHUA

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  61. Brother Phil Says:

    http://saintsalive.com/freemasonry/finneybook.pdf

    This all happenned before….. the only difference is media has become a powerful tool of communication.

    Rev Charles Finney broke it all down back in the day.^^^

  62. Brother Phil Says:

    XAVIER COOMBS /JAMES JACKSON THE THIRD I WAS ON THE YARD THE OTHER DAY SHARING MY TESTIMONY WITH MEMBERS OF THE NATION OF ISLAM AT THE STUDENT CENTER THEY INVITED ME INTO THEIR EVENT BEING HELD ON THE CAMPUS …………iT REALLY MADE ME THINK HOW AN ORGANIZATION THAT HAS SOME CRAZY DOCTRINES

    http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/1884855059/ref=sib_dp_pt/103-8087171-4151015#reader-link

    COULD BE OPERATING ON A PUBLIC STATE CAMPUS WHILE COMMISSIONED 2 LOVED GETS THE BOOT OVER SOME FALSE ACCUSATIONS FROM SOME SIGMAS. I TOLD THE MEMBERS OF THE NATION OF ISLAM THAT I COULD NOT ATTEND THEIR MEETING BECAUSE I WAS SENT THAT DAY TO THE YARD TO TALK TO STUDENT ON THE BLOCK ABOUT THE DANGERS OF SECRET SOCIETIES.

    WELL THEY REALLY COULD NOT COMMENT ABOUT THAT TO TOUGH SINCE THEIR FOUNDER WAS A FREEMASON.

    http://www.ephesians5-11.org

  63. xaviercoombs Says:

    Hello Bro Phil. I wish you would keep my name out your mouth! I have nit been on here and wrote anything. Although I may agree and know JAMES JACKSON III, I am xavier coombs. So please stop trying to be soooooooo confrontational. And concentrate on the “ministry” you are called to. I am tired of this mess I am a college graduate and I am trying to better myself not be caught up in this childish mess. I really love all you with the love of the lord. but I dont dont have time and taliaferro please leave me alone I am not bothering any of you. Bless you and have a great life.

  64. Brother Phil Says:

    XAVIER COOMBS NOBODY IS BOTHERING YOU SO CALM DOWN . Well i guess that it is kind of tuff when you turn on your org like that……. Believe me i understand i denounced Omega the difference between me and you is that I did not conspire to bring fake charges against my former org.

    And i love you with the LOVE of Christ too

    And i far as you and james ……you guys are one in spirit and possibly one in flesh.

  65. xaviercoombs Says:

    Well I didnt turn against C2L and I didnt bring fake charges against them. Man you are soooooooo jaded Larinda and those who did what they did know what happened and man pleas just leave me alone and grow go take care of your wife and children. Sir you are a grown man and you get your jollies sitting on the net talking about things you have no understanding or knowledge about. I know what happened is true and please you know nothing about me or my spirit so just keep my name out your mouth.

  66. xaviercoombs Says:

    Ignorance in ministry is disastrous and you end up with a bunch of thirsty zealots with no foundation but they feel is revealed to them but has no “biblical basis”

  67. Brother Phil Says:

    2. Tim iii. 1-5.-This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. For men shall be lovers of their ownselves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, without natural affection, truce- breakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God, having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof.

    Thank You Holy Spirit

  68. Brother Phil Says:

    In the name of JESUS, I cover myself and the one reading this with the Blood of JESUS. I ask for giant warrior angels to protect us. As your war club and weapons of war, I break down, undam, and blow up all walls of protection around all witches, warlocks, wizards, satanists, sorcerers, and the like, and I break the power of all curses, hexes, vexes, spells, charms, fetishes, psychic prayers, psychic thoughts, all witchcraft, sorcery, magic, voodoo, all mind control, jinxes, potions, bewitchments, death, destruction, sickness, pain, torment, psychic power, psychic warfare, prayer chains, incense and candle burning, incantations, chanting, blessings, hoodoo, crystals, root works, and everything else being sent my way, or my family member’s way, or any Deliverance Ministries way, and I return it, and the demons to the sender, SEVENFOLD, and I bind it to them by the Blood of Jesus, and I cut and burn their ungodly silver cord and lay lines, in JESUS’ Name.

  69. Curly Says:

    Brother Phil, I can’t help but notice that your lengthy prayer doesn’t call for protection against the corrupt politics of the Pope. Have you had a change of heart?

  70. Xavier Coombs Says:

    man you are really sick! Now where in what was said is there witchcraft. WOW I see you!! I hope you guys really get your eyes opened soon because you are slipping down a slippery slope! Wow I pray that you all be free from the bondage of manipulation and that the scales off your eyes be opened! It is scary how zealous you all are but have no strong biblical understanding and foundation on biblical history and theology to try preaching the gospel to Nations and masses such as on here!!! I pray that you move from a being a charismatic man without knowledge to one that is biblically sound and understands the word beyond just what you feel. Ignorance is not bliss when you are preaching Min. Taliaferro. I dont practice witchcraft of any sort but to you and your friends REBELLION(even against school authority) is as of the sin of witchcraft.

  71. Brother Phil Says:

    Ephesians 6

    11Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.

    12For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

    13Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.

    I love your Pope like any other man and like any other man in order to see the Kingdom of God you must be Born Again.

  72. Lawrence Johnson Says:

    I think that you guys are being a bit too much. You guys are going back and forth with this. This is not of God. You are grown men that should respect each others opinion. Mr. Phil I think you have some personal issues within yourself and you need to seek God and get over whatever it is.

    Xavier you need to just stop talking, it is ovious that these people are idiots. No need to get on here and talk back and forth with people that are making more of a situation that it is.

    furthermore you guys that are using the free webpage, get a life and purchance a real domain! You are a child of the king you got it!
    I feel that C2L has taken religion toooooooo far, just from what i have seen looking from the outside in. We need to be more concerned about feeding the hunry, saving the lost, helping the poor and last but not least, help these children that not doing well in school.

    This is utmost important, you need to really sit down and evaluate what all this foolishness and learn how to help each other within the community. We need to stop worrying about being greek or whatever else and reach out and touch someones life, can youi imagine what kind of world we would be in.

    I pray for both of you guys and stop calling people out on here brother Phil. You have some nerve!

  73. Brother Phil Says:

    When i joined the frat i did not think twice about memorizing all those poems and info i was a child of SATAN………….dont trip if you are not born again Satan is your FATHER……….But when I became a brand new creature the old man died and i began

    To eat the Bread of Life
    and Drink the Living Water that Flows
    From the Rock of all Ages
    Only God Knows how this story goes AND
    Oh it is Written All in His Word
    THE PASSOVER LAMB OF GOD THAT TAKE AWAY THE SINS OF THE WORLD ROSE ON THE THIRD
    IN THE NAME OF JESUS IN THE NAME OF JESUS
    WE HAVE THE VICTORY!!!
    IN THE NAME OF JESUS IN THE NAME OF JESUS
    SATAN YOU HAVE TO FLEE!!!

    PHAROAH LET MY PEOPLE GO SAINTS AINT GONNA TAKE IT NO MORE
    SOUND OFF THE SHOFARS FOR VICTORY
    THE DEAF WILL HEAR
    AND THE BLIND WILL SEE THEY WILL SEE
    THE DAY OF THE LORD THEY WILL SEE
    THE DAY OF THE LORD..

    And when i finally saw the Kingdom of God I picked up my cross and began to DIE DAILY…..

    ╔╗ For The
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    ║╚╣║║║║╩╣* * . + * Of
    ╚═╩═╩═╩═╝.*.* JESUS! this is why i am Hot my God is a Consuming FIRE
    ╔╗ For The
    ║║╔═╦╦╦═╗+ . . * +
    ║╚╣║║║║╩╣* * . + * Of
    ╚═╩═╩═╩═╝.*.* Money …..this is why your NOT on Fire for God

  74. hiutopor Says:

    Hi

    Very interesting information! Thanks!

    G’night

  75. Brother Phil Says:

    2008 Savannah State will welcome back Commissioned 2 Love ……God is Good….. Revival in Savannah Ga is real

  76. Minister Fred Hatchett Says:

    Awaiting Xavier and that boy who called me on the phone and told me that C2L would be shut down, DESI from Raleigh, N.C.

    You still have my number.

    I will be at Texas Southern University for a seminar on GLO’s (February 18)

  77. Minister Fred Hatchett Says:

    “Christian group prevails in settlement of “footwashing” case at Savannah State

    SAVANNAH, Ga. — Attorneys with the Alliance Defense Fund and National Legal Foundation have reached an agreement with Savannah State University that will allow a Christian student group to return to campus. The university suspended the group, Commissioned II Love, in April 2006 after university officials deemed the group’s act of sharing the Gospel as “harassment” and its practice of washing the feet of new members as “hazing.” The school later expelled the group from campus.

    “Christian student groups shouldn’t be discriminated against because of their beliefs. The Constitution specifically protects religious expression,” said ADF Litigation Staff Counsel Joseph Martins with the ADF Center for Academic Freedom.

    Officials at Savannah State expelled Commissioned II Love from campus on Sept. 11, 2006, alleging that the group violated its April 2006 suspension when some of its members individually participated in a contemporary Christian music event at DisneyWorld.

    Savannah State officials had accused the student ministry of engaging in “harassment” because its members shared their faith with other students and “hazing” because its leaders washed the feet of new members in an act of service. Foot washing is an ancient Christian custom reflecting Jesus’ service and love for his disciples. The university had charged that foot washing is “an activity which endangers or is likely to endanger the physical health of a student, regardless of the student’s willingness to participate in such activity.”

    “The university is doing the right thing now in allowing this student group to return to being part of the campus community in the same way as other groups who also hold to distinctive beliefs and practices,” said attorney Barry Hodge of NLF (www.nlf.net).

    In August 2007, the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of Georgia denied the university’s motion to dismiss the student group’s lawsuit, Commissioned II Love v. Yarbrough, refusing to throw out any of the group’s claims (www.telladf.org/news/story.aspx?cid=4219).

    The ADF Center for Academic Freedom is defending religious freedom at America’s public universities. ADF is a legal alliance defending the right to hear and speak the Truth through strategy, training, funding, and litigation.”

    http://www.telladf.org
    http://www.centerforacademicfreedom.org

    http://www.alliancedefensefund.org/news/pressrelease.aspx?cid=4384

    http://www.alliancedefensefund.org/news/story.aspx?cid=4219

  78. Minister Fred Hatchett Says:

    I am thankful for all you have written. Since you all did not have any evidence, or mention any specifics of what was going on, the problem could not really be dealt with. But you knew what exactly was going on, why did you not expose it. Ah! But now, there have been things that have come to pass, which are being dealt with now.

    To Be Continued!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  79. Minister Fred Hatchett Says:

    I am thankful for all you have written. Since you all did not have any evidence, or mention any specifics of what was going on, the problem could not really be dealt with. But you knew what exactly was going on, why did you not expose it? Ah! But now, there have been things that have come to pass, which are being dealt with now.

    To Be Continued!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  80. Brother Phil Says:

    A video to Commissioned2love filmed College Park Baptist Church wher i served as a youth pastor

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